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Re: [Public WebGL] another proposal to temporarily expose some device/driver information only when really needed

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Vladimir Vukicevic <vladimir@pobox.com> wrote:
> Hrm, I still don't understand -- can you provide some examples of how you
> see things being used?

Did you read the use cases in my previous email? Were those not clear
examples of use?

> Part of what you're describing sounds like you're
> reinventing RDF

I am not reinventing RDF; I am espousing RDF. You don't need to adopt
all of the other RDF technologies to be RDF-friendly and the work
required by the standards body is negligible -- just decree a
namespace embedded inside URI so we all use the same name for the same

> , which needs to die a slow death IMO (or really, already has
> on the web), but maybe I'm misunderstanding :)

What reason do you have to shun RDF? I believe you and I and everyone
else are already dying slow deaths...

Are you interested in Web Standards? RFC 3986 is pretty standard.

I may be misunderstanding. :-)


>      - Vlad
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:32 PM, David Sheets <kosmo.zb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> URIs provide a global federated namespace. They would be used as
>> identifiers for properties just like ambiguous bare names would be
>> used.
>> I am also talking about querying the browser for data. The data that
>> you are requesting is a collection of assertions about the local
>> host's capabilities. These assertions have predicates and values
>> (literal objects).
>> I fully support Benoit's proposal. I think it's an idea whose time is
>> long overdue (>= 1yr 2mo). My additional proposal is to use our
>> already existing WWW namespace system to describe local host
>> capabilities.
>> Here are some use cases:
>> 1. Bob writes a getDeviceAdvisories() shim that returns additional
>> custom assertions based on his JS profiling efforts. Bob's assertions
>> use predicates that aren't specified by a standards body. How does Bob
>> ensure that the property names don't collide? Bob uses a namespace he
>> already owns in the form of a URI.
>> 2. Alice wants to perform automated reasoning and analysis on a host's
>> capabilities using data from getDeviceAdvisories as well as other
>> sources. How does Alice integrate these disparate data sources? Alice
>> unifies them all under a global federated namespace (URI).
>> 3. Charles wants to provide the highest quality virtual space
>> experience possible. Charles is using a web service that automatically
>> transforms assets based on host profiles. What is the format that
>> Charles uses to transmit profile data? Host-predicate-object triples
>> with URIs and literals.
>> 4. The WebGL WG wishes to make 'standard' assertions about these host
>> properties. How does the WebGL WG under Khronos' auspices make
>> unambiguous assertions about these properties? (e.g. a partial order
>> on capabilities) The WebGL WG uses the URIs they had already assigned
>> to the properties.
>> The common thread here is interoperability and use of ubiquitous and
>> battle-tested web standards. If the WG decides to promulgate an API
>> like this (and I fully support such an API), I believe the responsible
>> thing to do as an Open Web standards steward is to embed the namespace
>> for assertion elements into URI. Why make a new anonymous namespace
>> when you could leverage the standard namespace of the WWW?
>> David
>> >     - Vlad
>> >

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