Re: [Public WebGL] Typed arrays and network data

[Arun Ranganathan <arun@mozilla.com>]

On 2/3/10 3:51 PM, Vladimir Vukicevic wrote:
> On 2/3/2010 3:44 PM, Oliver Hunt wrote:
> > On Feb 3, 2010, at 3:40 PM, Kenneth Russell wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Oliver Hunt<oliver@apple.com>  wrote:
> > > > Things like this should really go to the webapps or possibly the 
> > > > main whatwg mailing list as this api really shouldn't be webgl 
> > > > specific, and more importantly we need input from the wider html5 
> > > > community for these APIs.  I don't really like the way in which 
> > > > we're moving further and further from purely webgl related APIs and 
> > > > trying to specify APIs that really need input from non-webgl people.
> > > On what mailing list is the typed array proposal primarily being 
> > > discussed?
> > Typed arrays i think are probably being discussed on the es5-discuss 
> > mailing list, networking related APIs probably belong on whatwg or 
> > some such -- it seems that this binary data concept should really be 
> > tied into the Blob interface which is part of the FileAPI proposal
>
> Blob, ideally, can just become ArrayBuffer if there's agreement on 
> ArrayBuffer and the rest of the typed array bits.

By "just become" do you mean Blob should have an ArrayBuffer property?  
In general, I like the idea of linking the two.

> es-discuss was suggested by Arun and Brendan, but I don't think 
> there's actually much interest in the typed array proposal there 
> (there isn't active opposition, just sort of a "that's interesting" 
> silence). 

Well, es-discuss is the place where we can have *this* discussion, for 
one.  Some of the folks on this listserv are likely to also read 
es-discuss (I know olliej and vlad do).  I picked the ECMAScript 
listserv for this because I really think that we need new 
language-specific primitives.

You an subscribe/unsubscribe here: 
https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss

I know that *yet another listserv* is a daunting thought, but our 
discussion does influence the rest of the platform.

Vlad's "strawperson" is here:

http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=strawman:typed_arrays

> So I'll look to put it elsewhere, or just develop it within the webgl 
> group as a separate standalone specification.  That's not ideal, 
> because as Oliver says that it's not really a purely webgl thing, but 
> we have a need for getting it done in finite time...

We should perhaps lead with our own discussion, and then ping the 
es-discuss listserv.   FWIW, we can also ask the Chair of TC-39 (the 
group basically overseeing next versions of the ECMAScript language) to 
put this on the March meeting agenda.  Essentially, I'd like to see a 
successor edition of ECMAScript specify this.  If that isn't an ideal 
way to go, we should try something like W3C's WebApps.

-- A*
>     - Vlad
>
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